Sacred Rebel - Episode 3 - Where do we go from here, Part 2
EPISODE 3
This episode covers topics from deep within Ryan Ao's heartmind that don't get talked about too much. Life between lives, afterlife, heaven, heaven on earth, gender, suicide, life review, covid-19’s time of transition, 4th dimension, spiral dynamics, ascension, world religions and their mystic counterparts, spirit guides, angels, animal guides, source of the universe, new souls, old souls, picking a new life, past life’s on other planets, number of planets that can support life in the universe, telepathy, telekenisis, flying, levitating, dreamwork, and more. Other topics in the podcast series: spiritual mysticism, truth theories and disclosure, insiders whistlblowing on a space program of which the true knowledge of publicly could change the world for the better, free energy, healing technologies, a new earth, alternative healing, sustainability, and much more.
Book: Journey of Souls, Micheal Newton, PhD: https://bit.ly/3d8GJXr
Book: Destiny of Souls, Michael Newton, PhD: https://bit.ly/3c6akiZ
Movie: Defending your Life: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101698/
Don Edward Beck, Spiral Dynamics, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Edward_Beck
You can listen on all the major podcast platforms with links to them here: www.anchor.fm/sacredrebel
You can listen to the podcast for this episode at: https://www.ryanao.com/sacredrebel/episode/30f6439f/3-ryan-ao-where-do-we-go-from-here-part-2
You can find Ryan Ao at: https://www.ryanao.com
TRANSCRIPT:
00:02 hello hello hello
00:04 it's Ryan AO here I'm going live on
00:07 sacred rebel today where is it there it
00:12 is yeah yeah we're doing a restream
00:16 again so you can view this on Facebook
00:19 YouTube and Twitter for now I'm working
00:22 on getting it up on linked-in as well it
00:27 will not be available on Instagram live
00:31 for now unless I was able to have
00:34 multiple cameras going which I'm figured
00:36 out yet so these will all be posted as
00:39 live videos recordings to those sites
00:43 it'll also be having the audio extracted
00:47 and posted to my sacred rebel podcast on
00:49 all the major podcast platforms as well
00:53 as my website so you can find that at
00:54 Ryan AO comm ford slash sacred rebel but
00:58 today I want to keep diving into these
01:01 deep topics of things like life between
01:06 lives which is what we pot talked about
01:08 last time and moving on from there into
01:11 a little bit of the dream world I had an
01:13 amazing dream last night that sparked me
01:15 wanting to share a little bit about that
01:18 and what I think is happening with
01:21 dreams right now during this covert time
01:24 so let's see let's see so how do I start
01:33 going into some of this stuff let's see
01:35 well you know back into the first
01:37 episode I was talking about how I'd read
01:40 this book called journey of souls by
01:42 Michael Newton there's also as he's a
01:45 PhD in psychology or psych psychiatry I
01:50 think it's psychology
01:52 and he did age regression with his
01:57 clients to help them heal wounds from
02:01 their childhood traumas from their
02:03 childhood and accidentally age regressed
02:06 some of them back into what he called
02:08 the astral plane or life between lives
02:10 and so over 30 years of
02:13 acting this technique and documenting
02:15 what he heard all these different people
02:17 who had never talked to each other
02:19 referring to which was often very
02:21 similar he was able to kind of map out
02:24 the the spiritual world or the astral
02:26 plane or heaven or life beyond lives so
02:29 there's a second book too called destiny
02:31 of souls so I've kind of gone through
02:34 just some of the brief idea of that book
02:38 in the first episode so if you want to
02:39 watch that if you haven't yet that might
02:41 help you understand but I talk about
02:42 things like soul groups and how we all
02:45 have these similar people in our lives
02:49 that are like we consider our soul
02:50 friends or our soul mates and there's
02:53 often about 10 to 15 of them that are in
02:57 our quote soul group that they described
02:59 in these life regression therapy
03:02 sessions and so that's also kind of the
03:05 basis for reincarnation because it's
03:08 being scientifically proven now through
03:10 his Western medicine style aid
03:14 regression and worked that these people
03:17 are living reincarnation lives and even
03:21 a friend of mine who's a nurse Sarah
03:23 Collins has said that her work in the
03:25 hospitals has really helped her
03:27 understand that life is a reincarnation
03:31 thing because some of the people she's
03:32 seen on the death beds have seen white
03:35 lights and talked about similar things
03:36 and as they've gone into the astral
03:39 plane or the Otherworld she's started to
03:41 see connections there that have helped
03:43 her as a scientist believes that we do
03:46 really live and a reincarnated life so I
03:49 will be having her on as a guest in the
03:51 future we hope we've talked about that a
03:52 little bit online so it's just
03:55 interesting to me because I feel like as
03:56 a spiritual person I've also had to
03:59 reconcile science and and you know the
04:03 fact that some of the scientific things
04:06 that are happening are proving
04:08 spirituality are really fascinating to
04:11 me so I'm going to get into a little bit
04:12 more about these life between lives
04:13 today and then at the end of that
04:15 episode we'll get into what that kind of
04:19 implies for what we're all dealing with
04:21 on this more intense dream work a lot of
04:24 us are going through right now and
04:25 during the quarantine crisis
04:27 I'm definitely having some very intense
04:30 dreams that are kind of life-changing to
04:31 be honest I had one last night that'll
04:34 just say right now was as powerful if
04:37 not more powerful than my ayahuasca
04:38 journey about ten years ago so that was
04:41 pretty and powerful and I'll share a
04:43 little bit more about that but to get
04:45 back into life between lives I want to
04:46 just give you some of the fundamentals
04:48 of what this book talks about they have
04:50 you know different chapters are
04:52 basically broken down into topics so you
04:56 learn about what over 30 years Michel
04:59 Newton was hearing from people on these
05:01 one topics so for example what what it's
05:06 like to go home after you pass away they
05:08 all say this thing about like going
05:10 through the white tunnel and when you go
05:13 there you're met by people that you feel
05:15 like you've known through multiple lives
05:17 sometimes the spirit guide is there
05:19 sometimes you're passed away mom is
05:21 there or your dad or whatever and it's
05:23 very common in these experiences to also
05:27 see a spiritual figure that you might
05:30 have studied or been a practicing during
05:32 that let's say you were a Christian and
05:34 a follower of Jesus you you will see
05:36 Jesus let's say you were a Buddhist and
05:37 a follower bruda you might see Buddha or
05:40 if you're Islamic you might see Muhammad
05:43 or whatever so it's kind of this general
05:46 sense of comfort welcoming you home with
05:51 a lot of common experiences to what is
05:55 personalized to you so and on that note
05:57 as we talked about last time there are
05:59 these soul groups so you will be greeted
06:01 by your soul group or and what's
06:04 interesting too is that often you will
06:06 have people in your soul group who are
06:07 still living a life on planet Earth so
06:10 you may have passed on and they're still
06:13 down there so in that case it's
06:16 interesting that apparently our souls
06:18 are at rest during the day when we're
06:22 living but then at night when we're
06:25 sleeping our souls are active on the
06:27 astral plane so you know depending on
06:30 when you pass away some of your soul
06:33 group members might be in an in an
06:35 inactive state apparently and they may
06:37 be there to greet you but they would be
06:38 later so like a night and then of course
06:41 time is very different to in the astral
06:43 plane so it's interesting like they talk
06:45 about how within literally an hour of a
06:49 person passed away here on earth they
06:52 might have already lived what would be
06:53 equivalent to like a thousand years in
06:55 the astral plane so again like it might
06:59 be very quick that you would see
07:01 somebody in the astral plane who might
07:03 be quote asleep or not present while
07:06 you've been here on earth so it's it's
07:09 pretty comforting to know that all the
07:11 people in your soul group would be there
07:12 or very quickly soon after being able to
07:14 greet you and connect with you and hey
07:17 what was your life about and let's
07:19 review it let's talk about it would you
07:21 learn so let's get to the root of all
07:25 this what is all this
07:26 stemming from I mean if we are an
07:28 internal soul having a human experience
07:31 and we do not die and energy is
07:34 permanent then when we pass on from this
07:37 plane we realize that this was more of
07:41 an illusory realm so think of it as like
07:43 software being programmed in a virtual
07:46 world kind of like that moving the
07:47 matrix which by the way that movie was
07:49 actually I feel disclosing truths that
07:53 even Tibetan Buddhist lamas say is true
07:56 like I have a Tibetan lama teacher who
07:58 says that that movie is very fascinating
08:01 to her because she said the filmmakers
08:03 must be students of Buddhism because
08:05 they're speaking to very deep truths and
08:07 it turns out they were there which
08:08 hausky brothers at the time who were now
08:11 the Wachowskis sisters yes they have
08:14 transitioned their genders both of them
08:16 ironically they are very strong students
08:20 of Buddhism which means that according
08:23 to this tradition the Buddhist tradition
08:24 you are not really who you think you are
08:27 so you are not the body that you can
08:28 pinch right you are the quiet space when
08:33 you are in solitude and your mind is
08:35 turned off or meditating or praying you
08:38 are the tiny urgings that you get that
08:40 you often ignore like oh I should hug
08:43 that person or I should give that almost
08:45 person something to eat but oh I'm too
08:47 busy so those are the actual those
08:50 urging
08:50 those connections we have with this
08:52 space in our hearts and our minds is
08:55 actually the real you and that's your
08:56 soul the the person that we feel and we
08:59 think about every day and that we have
09:02 interactive thoughts with and that's
09:04 actually our egoic self and the goal in
09:09 this life is to shed that ego itself as
09:12 much as possible so that we can hear
09:14 more of what the soul is guiding us to
09:16 do because that soul is an eternal being
09:20 and trying to evolve and we're here as a
09:25 like a collaborator with that soul in
09:28 this body to learn the things that that
09:30 soul needs to learn to ascend or move
09:32 unto other dimensions so how did you get
09:35 here well you chose to be here
09:37 apparently you start off as a young soul
09:40 from source there's constantly new Souls
09:44 being born and like I mentioned last
09:46 time I feel like that is sources way of
09:50 experiencing the universe because the
09:54 the apparently according to Matthias de
09:57 Stefano on the gaia show initiation
10:00 really what the source is is nothingness
10:03 it's a void there's nothing there and
10:05 the source probably was wanting to
10:08 experience more and then the nothingness
10:11 and created us all or every living
10:14 conscious being in the universe whatever
10:17 it is whether it's a one cell organism
10:18 and alien a planet a tree a centipede or
10:22 a human or an alien every single one of
10:26 these beings source is getting to live
10:29 an experience through through that one
10:31 beings perspective and so there's
10:33 infinite number of these beings
10:34 throughout the universe coming back to
10:36 source and bringing with them this
10:39 evolutionary journey that source then
10:41 kind of learns from and I think you
10:45 chose to be here and in this life as
10:50 source sent you has sent you on multiple
10:54 many many different journeys through
10:57 different lives starting as a simplest
11:01 life-form like you know a one-celled
11:04 organism
11:04 or a plant cell or whatever I don't even
11:07 know what there could be on other
11:08 planets but apparently there are other
11:10 planets with life forms on them and you
11:13 have been on other planets potentially
11:15 and you have made it all the way to
11:17 being human so congratulate yourself
11:20 apparently it's an incredibly difficult
11:23 thing to become a human and it has taken
11:27 you countless lives to become a human
11:28 and you've even lived countless lives as
11:31 a human apparently although some of us
11:33 are younger humans and some of us might
11:36 even mean brand-new humans in this
11:38 earthly realm some of us are more
11:39 advanced humans some of us have actually
11:41 even advanced beyond being human into
11:44 other dimensions and shed our human
11:46 bodies but our bodhisattvas which I said
11:50 bodhichitta last time but Bodhisattva is
11:52 the being that has decided to come back
11:55 to the third dimension reality or even
11:58 be in the astral realm and guide people
12:01 as spirit guides but whatever it is that
12:03 Bodhisattva has taken a vow to stay in a
12:06 reincarnating state or stay in a guiding
12:09 teacher state for third dimensional
12:11 beings until all of us ascend to the
12:13 fourth dimension and what a bodhisattva
12:15 does is generate bodhichitta and that's
12:19 what the word I'm it said last time but
12:21 bodhichitta is the energy that you are
12:24 generating to help all beings come to
12:26 enlightenment with you so if you are a
12:29 more of an advanced being you might find
12:33 yourself on this life maybe not wanting
12:36 to engage in the mainstream world as
12:39 much and you might find yourself like a
12:41 sacred rebel people being more of a
12:44 person that may be more interested in
12:45 meditating or like my wife Constanze
12:47 doing psychic work for people and
12:49 coaching them and helping them and or
12:50 just being of service to other people
12:53 and that really is the way to ascend to
12:55 the fourth dimension apparently is to be
12:58 of complete service to others and so
13:02 okay so I'm getting ahead of myself
13:05 so we talked about it's very precious
13:07 gift to be reborn as a human and
13:10 generally you've been on these journeys
13:13 with your other soulmates so you've all
13:15 kind of journey together in these
13:17 that lifetimes to advance to these
13:19 higher levels we also have guides as I
13:21 mentioned previously who are very
13:24 advanced beings who like might even be
13:26 beyond the Bodhisattva level they might
13:28 even be close to getting back to source
13:31 or have already gone back to source but
13:33 have come back to guide all of us into
13:36 how to be ascended so I think what's
13:40 important is that you need to know that
13:42 these guides do connect with us and
13:44 person like my wife Constance who is
13:46 constantly doing exercises and
13:49 meditations and work to bring in her
13:52 guides will get a lot more contact with
13:54 her guide then of those of us who are
13:56 just so busy in our minds that we don't
13:58 connect with them and so they're a
13:59 little bit less present but they will
14:02 bring themselves into our lives and
14:05 sometimes knock us over the head with a
14:07 lesson or whatever and that is important
14:10 to pay attention to and sometimes you
14:12 might not realize why you're going
14:13 through this difficult life change or
14:16 whatever but it might be actually
14:18 brought on to you by your spirit guide
14:20 and really the gret the greatest lesson
14:23 there is that you can actually get in
14:25 touch with your spirit guide and ask
14:30 them for help and so that's wonderful so
14:31 like for the five years I was deeply
14:34 practicing a Tibetan high Tibetan
14:40 Buddhist meditation practice part of
14:44 that meditation practice was calling in
14:45 our spirit guides and asking them and I
14:47 do really feel like during that time in
14:49 my life which was during the within
14:51 reach movie project where I was biking
14:53 across the country with Amanda Creighton
14:55 6,500 miles to visit 100 sustainable
14:58 communities we really needed guidance on
15:01 that journey and we got it we got a lot
15:03 of help from spirit guides and a lot of
15:06 miracles occurred and more during that
15:08 short time of my life than any other
15:10 time of my life even now though I have
15:12 to say we are bringing in more help for
15:15 my spirit guides more than ever
15:17 especially during this crisis and we are
15:19 seeing the more miracles happen because
15:21 we're doing that work so I encourage you
15:24 to find some sort of practice that
15:25 allows you to get in touch with your
15:27 spirit guides
15:28 and there's all kinds I mean you can do
15:30 meditation you can do yoga you can just
15:33 talk to your spirit guides I'm Constance
15:36 what what is a common way that people
15:38 can start out calling in their spirit
15:40 guides meditation okay what else can
15:45 they just simply talk to it or else
15:47 yeah and how would they hear or see any
15:50 sort of sign that their spirit guide is
15:52 listening to them or saying something to
15:56 them they could ask for a sign all right
15:59 what else could you maybe try to
16:04 manifest something that you want and see
16:05 if it comes to fruition and then that
16:07 might be a sign that spirit guides are
16:10 helping me no okay
16:13 you don't think so what do you feel like
16:16 is a good sign for you that you have
16:18 been making contact with the spirit
16:20 guide she can tune into it how would a
16:33 person who's not as intuitive as you
16:35 like kind of take note that something
16:39 has been going I was saying that
16:40 sometimes when you're going through a
16:42 really rough thing in your life you
16:43 might get knocked over the head really
16:44 hard with a life lesson and that
16:46 couldn't just be your spirit guide
16:47 saying wake up get out of this state of
16:50 not being awake is that a good point do
16:55 you think yeah yeah sometimes I feel
17:03 like when I'm really sad I might get
17:04 like a happy sign like a hummingbird
17:07 flies right in front of my face or or
17:10 I'll be talking about somebody and
17:11 they'll call or I'll see a rainbow right
17:14 at a time and I needed it do you think
17:16 those are gonna kind of signs that our
17:18 spirit guides might be listening and
17:19 watching and paying attention yeah if
17:35 there's a bug you see that you're really
17:37 drawn to that's interesting
17:39 they call that spirit guides okay
17:42 interesting or animals yeah oh so she's
17:53 saying if you see a certain animal that
17:56 you're feeling drawn to maybe look it up
17:57 and find out what what is the horse mean
17:59 in my life right now or what does a dear
18:02 in my life right now
18:04 hmm buta front okay beautiful and so you
18:11 know in a way if you're christian those
18:13 could be considered angels if you're
18:15 buddhist it might be a spiritual guide
18:16 if you're a Native American it might be
18:18 animal guides but a lot of different
18:21 spiritual traditions tend to have a
18:24 thing about spirit guides especially the
18:28 mystic what forms and every every major
18:30 religion actually has a mystic side to
18:33 it like Buddhism is more like the
18:35 Catholic side of that religion and in
18:37 Tibetan Buddhism is more like the
18:39 Protestant side or even more the Quaker
18:41 side like way out there you know and
18:44 Christianity has Quakers and
18:46 Islam has Sufis and I don't know every
18:51 religion has something that is a more
18:54 mystical side and so I would say those
18:57 mystical sides are actually doing things
18:59 like trying to get in touch with the
19:00 spirit guides having some sort of
19:02 meditative practice some sort of way to
19:05 really tune in to the universe and the
19:09 spirit guides are very important yeah
19:11 calling them in yeah because when I was
19:15 a Buddhist I mean I did a meditation for
19:18 one hour in the morning and one hour in
19:19 the evening and the very first actually
19:21 second line of that meditation was
19:23 calling in our spiritual guides
19:25 basically it was like all the elders and
19:29 the enlightened beings to come and help
19:36 yeah yeah
19:50 just as advanced yeah yeah I like that
20:00 so okay so we're gonna move on from here
20:03 Thank You Constance for your insights
20:05 into spirit guides and if you want to
20:08 come on as a guest sometime and talk to
20:10 us about your work as an intuitive and
20:13 what you do to you know work with spirit
20:17 guides and how you manifest some psychic
20:20 skills we should have you on okay sacred
20:24 guest or sacred rebel guest constant
20:26 sale coming up soon so be out be on the
20:28 lookout for that so yeah so let's see
20:32 where do we go from here I have a you
20:36 know a feeling that we're gonna be
20:38 talking about destiny of souls long into
20:42 the future there's just so I've been
20:44 sitting here at my desk sometimes
20:46 spacing out on what what to talk about
20:48 on sacred rebel and sometimes I just get
20:52 a little bit overwhelmed by how much
20:53 there is in these books journey of souls
20:56 so I feel like we'll break it up into
20:58 little pieces here and there and dive in
21:00 more and someday a topic might come up
21:03 in my life that might be like alright
21:04 there's a great example and we'll dive
21:06 into it but today I can get into a
21:08 little bit more about you know just kind
21:11 of the basis of what our souls are doing
21:13 here and what we're trying to learn so
21:15 let's see so in the as I've mentioned
21:21 previously we have these soulmates that
21:24 have been on the journey at same level
21:26 of us apparently and we tend to advance
21:30 to higher levels together and as we just
21:31 talked about we have these guides that
21:33 are guiding us generally individually
21:37 guiding us so like even people in your
21:39 own soul group might have different
21:40 spiritual guides they're working with
21:42 because spirit guides and teachers as
21:44 you can understand even in the real
21:46 world we all are drawn to different like
21:48 pastors or spiritual teachers or mentors
21:51 or coaches or therapists or whatever so
21:54 even in the spiritual world we have
21:55 different guides even though we're
21:57 on this journey similar journey with our
22:00 soul group so these guides you know can
22:03 be coming from other dimensions to visit
22:05 us and are usually these these guides
22:08 are pretty busy people but some of us
22:10 may be feeling something going on in our
22:13 life where they'll pick up on that and
22:15 they'll know to come and help us um but
22:20 we we tend to do a lot of our art work
22:24 interactively on the soul level for
22:28 example we usually tend to work with our
22:31 elders in the soul world as we are
22:35 coming into a life to do things like
22:37 choosing our parents choosing what we
22:39 will look like what gender we have and
22:42 by the way this is all still coming from
22:43 journey of souls this does not mean just
22:45 making this up this is scientifically
22:48 mythology scientific method done work
22:52 where you know hundreds and hundreds and
22:54 hundreds of people over thirty years
22:56 were documented by this doctor of
22:58 psychology so they've said you know we
23:00 choose our parents we choose how we look
23:02 which is what January are generally we
23:04 choose the same gender in the human
23:06 lives but there are people who choose to
23:09 mix it up a little bit and both my wife
23:12 and I feel like we have done that mix it
23:14 up I definitely feel like I've been a
23:15 female in a past life and Constance
23:18 definitely feels like she's been a male
23:19 in the past life so that's interesting
23:21 you will you will probably know if
23:24 you've ever been if a different gender
23:26 and you're past five because you will
23:28 just feel like you know that energy
23:29 inside of you and I would say you know
23:32 LGBTQ people lesbian gay bisexual
23:35 transgender people have obviously been
23:40 multiple genders in their past lives
23:42 because they're in this life balancing
23:44 both genders so that's interesting I
23:47 think that's really cool in fact on that
23:49 note there is this concept in Native
23:53 American traditions and other native
23:56 traditions like Hawaiian indigenous
23:59 peoples of all types all over the world
24:01 they don't have a word that is
24:03 derogatory for like homosexual or gay
24:07 they have a word they don't even really
24:10 acknowledge the
24:11 word in their languages usually but they
24:13 do have a word or a concept called
24:15 two-spirit where it's actually a highly
24:18 revered status within the community and
24:20 those people who are balancing the two
24:23 spirits the two genders are revered as
24:26 spiritual teachers and they usually end
24:28 up becoming shamans or some sort of
24:30 elder within the community to teach us
24:34 how to you know be in touch with the
24:38 higher parts of ourselves that are
24:40 genderless and gender-fluid and able to
24:43 mass you know to master bringing in the
24:46 masculine and the feminine into one
24:48 being and actually constants that I had
24:51 a great live on her channel the other
24:52 day called balancing your inner
24:54 masculine and your inner feminine so you
24:57 can see that on her Channel what's your
24:59 channel called sweets thought that was
25:01 on was that just your personal Facebook
25:03 if you just go to Constance AO on
25:05 Facebook and her personal profile you
25:08 can go into the video section click on
25:11 the live videos and probably find that
25:13 called balancing your inner feminine and
25:17 any masculine right something like that
25:20 yeah and that was mostly in reference to
25:22 relationships and how to like you know
25:25 learn about gender roles within a
25:27 relationship so it was a fascinating
25:29 discussion I highly encourage you to
25:31 watch that so yeah so back to the guides
25:34 and so yeah so they help us even figure
25:38 out where geographically we want to live
25:40 what you know here's an interesting one
25:42 even what planet we will live on the
25:44 books talk about that like some of us
25:47 have lived on other planets some of us
25:49 have only lived on earth but that's
25:51 interesting to me so would they even
25:53 talk about like these other planets what
25:55 is well there's like aquatic world so we
25:57 may have been an aquatic creature
25:58 there's these angelic realms they're all
26:02 cloudy and we can just fly everywhere
26:04 there's like yeah just fantasy like
26:07 anything you could imagine it probably
26:09 exists I think is what they said in the
26:10 book because it's just an infinite
26:12 universe right I mean David Wilcock was
26:15 even saying and I should get more into
26:17 my thoughts on David Wilcock in a little
26:19 while but like I really resonate with a
26:21 lot of the things he says and one of the
26:23 things
26:24 says is that there's it's been proven
26:26 now that there are more okay so you know
26:29 you've heard that there's more stars in
26:31 the sky then there are grains of sand on
26:34 earth right well what's interesting is
26:37 that they have now proven that there is
26:40 more habitable planets in the universe
26:44 then there are grains of sand in the
26:46 universe and so the chances are that
26:49 there are life out there that exists
26:52 beyond our planet earth is just it's
26:55 unfathomable and so for people to not
26:58 believe that there is life out there is
27:00 almost like egoic it's almost like your
27:05 ego saying we're the center of the
27:07 universe and there's nothing out there
27:08 oh yeah really because there are more
27:10 grains of sand on the planet Earth or
27:14 there are more planets out there that
27:16 are habitable then there are plant
27:17 grains of sand on the planet so how is
27:19 it possible that we are the only ones
27:21 that evolved life in this entire
27:23 universe I think that's pretty profound
27:25 so with that said when the people are
27:29 saying in this journey of souls case
27:30 studies that they lived lives on other
27:32 planets that seems like a no-brainer to
27:34 me and I will be honest with you I feel
27:37 like I've lived lives on another planet
27:38 and I feel you know and this is gonna
27:40 sound pretty hoity-toity to say this
27:43 what is hoity-toity I mean I don't know
27:45 like maybe it may sound like I'm on my
27:47 high horse and I don't mean to be that
27:50 kind of a person but I really do feel
27:52 like I came to this earth in shock at
27:54 the conditions that we're living in and
27:56 I still have and my wife feels that way
27:59 too I don't feel like I've ever really
28:00 reconciled the conditions that we live
28:03 in on earth like just money first of all
28:06 I don't feel like money is something
28:09 that should exist I think money is too
28:13 easily grabbed by certain people who
28:15 want more of it and I think all of us
28:16 should be living in an energy exchange
28:19 where we all contribute and we get we
28:23 get a return for what we contribute I
28:25 think things like poverty and
28:28 homelessness and hunger don't need to
28:32 exist and I I feel like I came to this
28:34 world I remember being a young
28:37 kid just crying about homelessness and
28:39 poverty and hunger and kids not being
28:43 able to eat in Ethiopia when my parents
28:44 would used to say at the dinner table
28:46 like eat all your food because there's
28:48 kids starving in Ethiopia I remember
28:49 times I would just cry at stable like
28:51 what do you mean like there's good
28:53 starving Ethiopian and they'd like show
28:56 us an article in National Geographic
28:58 with these malnourished kids and you
29:00 know in hopes that we would eat our
29:02 dinner and I would just be like and then
29:07 you know thinking about how we eat
29:08 animals and you know I'm a meat-eater I
29:11 have to admit I tried to be a vegetarian
29:13 for many years and it was just hard for
29:15 me but like it just makes me sad that we
29:17 have to kill a being to be nourished
29:18 it's like that's sad like why can't we
29:20 just not kill beings and be nourished
29:22 and I feel like there must have been
29:24 another life I lived on another planet
29:26 where I've experienced a world that was
29:27 much different than the conditions here
29:29 on earth but I feel like I'm here to
29:31 help and I think a lot of us are there's
29:35 this thing called star seeds well you
29:37 might have heard that in a new-age world
29:38 what is a star seed mean well star seed
29:40 means just that there's people who have
29:42 lived in other planetary systems on
29:45 other lives in other lives on other
29:48 planets and they've been chosen to come
29:51 here even though there probably have
29:53 lived lives that are now more positive
29:56 than that you would find here on earth
29:58 but they've come back to earth to help
30:01 us ascend and transition into a better
30:04 age and I feel like I'm one of those
30:07 people because you know it's just it's
30:09 hard for me to not want to just go home
30:12 to one of those other planets I feel
30:14 like Earth is not home for me and I feel
30:16 like there's a lot of friends and people
30:17 that I've met on this planet that feel
30:19 the same way
30:20 so but yeah so we we I feel like I chose
30:24 to come back in this life at this time
30:26 to help Planet Earth come to a new level
30:29 of consciousness and I think that's part
30:32 of what's going on right now during Cova
30:34 19 I think there's a lot of shaking up
30:37 happening in people's worldviews and
30:40 seeing that the the system is not what
30:43 they once thought it was it's a broken
30:45 system and I think a lot of people are
30:47 waking up to the fact that we can do
30:48 things a better
30:50 yeah so okay so let's get into Ascension
30:54 let's talk about that for a second
30:57 every time we live a life we go before a
31:02 council of elders after we pass on to
31:04 that dimension and these council of
31:07 elders are maybe advanced spiritual
31:09 guides or just old souls or advanced
31:12 being and they have no judgment but in
31:16 fact to a loving life review with us and
31:18 so actually there's a funny movie that I
31:21 highly recommend you watch is called
31:22 defending your life and Meryl Streep's
31:25 in it it's a great movie because it
31:27 really resonates with a lot of the
31:28 things in the journey of souls in the
31:30 sense that you have to kind of go before
31:32 a review council board and you watch
31:35 videos of highlights of your life and
31:37 try to defend you the decisions you made
31:40 was like well the one thing that's a
31:41 little different about that movie than
31:42 what I hear is an actual reality in the
31:45 in the ashram is that you don't need to
31:47 defend your life you're they're not
31:48 there to judge you it's more about they
31:51 look at highlights of your life with you
31:53 or maybe your entire life because time
31:55 is not it's not the same there you might
31:57 even have time to watch every
31:58 millisecond of your life together
32:00 because literally it might be just like
32:03 okay we watched your life you know it's
32:06 like okay what did you learn is really
32:08 what it's all about it's not about like
32:10 what did you do wrong you're not allowed
32:12 to go to the next level because you were
32:13 a bad person it's more like what lessons
32:16 did you feel like you succeeded in in
32:19 this life and what lessons did you feel
32:20 like you failed in or what what work do
32:22 you feel like you want to do in another
32:23 incarnation it is possible to stop
32:26 reincarnating and advance to a higher
32:28 level and become a spirit guide or even
32:29 exist in other ways and I think that's
32:31 what happened at the end of the movie
32:35 life defending your life which was kind
32:38 of fun um and I think you know even the
32:40 Tibetan Buddhists talked about how we
32:42 can stop that wheel of karma and move on
32:44 and stop reincarnating and generally
32:47 there's different paths you can take
32:50 once you stop that wheel of karma
32:52 apparently you can live in a in a
32:54 dimension that's just blissful some
32:58 people want to do that some people need
33:00 that they've been you know
33:01 through enough trauma or pain that once
33:03 they reach that level they just want to
33:04 be there you can stop being there and
33:07 come back and reincarnate if you want
33:09 and that's the Bodhisattva path if you
33:13 want to become a teacher or a guide
33:15 whatever you can do that but anyways the
33:20 the point is is that you can move on and
33:22 but the key to being able to move on is
33:25 just to not feel judgment so in this
33:27 life it's the same thing like we have to
33:30 work on self-love I I get that it's a
33:32 hard thing it's a hard thing even for me
33:35 but the key to evolving in advancing is
33:39 just to not feel judgment towards
33:41 yourself and to not feel judgment from
33:42 other people because our cert our
33:44 spiritual guides certainly are not
33:46 judging us and in in these future lives
33:50 or of ascension and we when we live in a
33:53 fourth dimension or fifth dimension or
33:54 whatever phase nobody will be judging us
33:57 and so we were able to be in a world
33:59 where we have telepathy because there's
34:04 nothing to hide there's no feelings of
34:06 shame and that's an ascended space state
34:10 of being so you know there there are
34:14 things in life reviews that are not
34:16 judged per se but that are looked at as
34:19 okay that was a lesson you need to go
34:21 back in there for example suicide is
34:23 apparently a not learned lesson from
34:26 your life and you will need to go back
34:29 you will be encouraged to go back on
34:31 your own time only when you're ready to
34:33 relearn the challenges that causes you
34:35 to take your life and then you can
34:37 choose in that life to not take your
34:40 life and if you do it again and again
34:41 and again apparently you know there will
34:46 be some strong stepping in to help you
34:48 advance past that decision continual
34:50 tation decision to take your life so you
34:54 could read the books to find out more
34:55 it's pretty intense I don't honestly
34:57 remember all the details but it's kind
34:59 of like if they have to step in because
35:01 you keep taking your life in every life
35:03 then they'll do this thing called like
35:05 an energy washing so basically the wash
35:07 away all the traumas from your life and
35:09 you will lose part of your memory
35:11 your self-identity but you will still be
35:13 the same soul that you are and if you
35:16 keep doing it then apparently they'll
35:17 just have to do like a soul button reset
35:19 where you basically just lose all your
35:21 memories and start over as a brand new
35:22 soul so try to keep that in mind about
35:26 suicide it's not something that we need
35:28 to shame people about but I ever since
35:30 reading this book have had a strong
35:32 heart and helping people make different
35:34 choices when it comes to suicide because
35:36 I feel like it would be sad for them to
35:37 have to go back and relearn all this
35:38 again some people when I did my movie
35:41 about suicide it was a documentary film
35:43 but it never got launched it was a put
35:46 on shelf but it was about Robin Williams
35:48 and suicide awareness and depression
35:51 awareness when I did that movie you know
35:53 a few people did say some things that
35:55 really shook me which was that we
35:57 shouldn't judge people if they decide to
36:00 take with our life because some people
36:01 might be in such a dysfunctional place
36:04 that it might be just kind of like
36:05 almost like euthanasia just like
36:08 allowing themselves to be able to leave
36:11 this body and I think there might be
36:13 some truth to that and I think that our
36:15 souls will be in a private conversation
36:17 with our elders when it comes to suicide
36:19 it was like it might be like yeah I was
36:22 so dysfunctional that I literally
36:24 couldn't exist anymore in this dimension
36:26 any I needed to leave and they might
36:27 forgive that that might be something I
36:29 mean and again it's not about judgement
36:31 or forgiveness if I just be like alright
36:33 that's a good enough reason you can move
36:34 on but like it what I've heard from the
36:37 Tibetan Buddhists that is very helpful
36:39 when we leave this life when we leave
36:42 this dimension it's really all about
36:43 what energy did we leave with if we left
36:46 with like I'm running away I'm angry I'm
36:49 sad I'm mad I mean you know any of that
36:51 kind of energy that is gonna clue you in
36:57 to the fact that you might need to
36:58 reincarnate and clear that energy if you
37:00 leave this dimension in a happy positive
37:04 state of being if you leave with very
37:06 uplifting energy
37:08 you're gonna possibly be able to move on
37:10 I think in general it's pretty clear
37:13 that suicide doesn't leave with a
37:15 positive energy it leaves with a
37:16 negative energy so that's why it's
37:18 pretty much looked at as it's a not
37:20 learned lesson now there are exceptions
37:22 for sure and some suicides might
37:25 able to leave in a positive place so
37:27 yeah
37:28 that's between you and your council of
37:31 elders apparently so you're some people
37:33 were right when I made that movie that
37:35 like we shouldn't judge people and if
37:36 people are you know feeling like they're
37:39 making a really strong decision to take
37:41 their own life and and and they're doing
37:43 in the right energy and that that's fine
37:45 we shouldn't say you shouldn't commit
37:47 suicide and you know I feel like during
37:49 my time as a practicing Christian going
37:52 to church I was told by church members
37:55 and pastors that if you kill yourself in
37:58 this life that you will go to hell and
37:59 now I have a hard time hearing that
38:01 after reading journey of souls because I
38:04 don't believe there's like some sort of
38:05 hellish judgement like you're a murderer
38:08 bla bla bla I think it's definitely not
38:11 a positive thing for most people and it
38:14 can be you know a really bad thing but I
38:18 think also because you do hurt a lot of
38:20 people in that process but I don't think
38:22 it's something that's worth judging
38:24 others for if they take their own life
38:26 if a person in your life took their life
38:28 my dad took his own life my one of my
38:30 best friends took his own life I don't
38:32 judge them you know you may go through a
38:34 phase like I did where you're going
38:37 through the phases of grief and death
38:39 and you might be mad at them you might
38:42 be hurt that they left you and that's
38:45 okay but ultimately it's not up to us to
38:49 judge them and tell and think oh well
38:51 they're going to hell
38:52 you know it's it's really between them
38:54 in there their teachers on the other
38:58 realm so we can just you know take it in
39:01 stride if somebody in our lives takes
39:05 their lives and of course go through the
39:06 the grief and in the stages of grief and
39:10 I think we can pray for them in their
39:12 souls to find the peace that they need
39:15 so that they can ascend in future lives
39:16 I mean you know some of these people
39:17 might be in our soul group like I
39:19 believe my dad might be in either my
39:21 soul group or a neighboring group and
39:22 the fact that he took his life might be
39:25 something that I might you know be
39:28 working with him to review and when I
39:32 get to the astral plane I really hope
39:33 that I get to talk with him about why he
39:35 chose to take his life and what
39:38 that'll meant for him and what he
39:39 learned from it and all that so maybe
39:41 that's a way to look at it all right so
39:43 let's get let's move on from the topic
39:45 of suicide that's that's all very
39:47 discussed in that book genius holes and
39:50 decimals so I think it's important to
39:52 talk about but yeah so moving on and
39:55 let's get back to the topic of what is
39:57 ascension so I think it's important to
40:02 realize that ascension is just a higher
40:03 level of consciousness of being and that
40:06 we're actually all collectively going
40:08 through that as a planet right now we've
40:10 all been you know put here on this
40:13 planet or chosen to be home on this
40:14 planet because right now is a really
40:17 unique time in the history of planet
40:19 Earth in the sense that we're worth I
40:21 think we're completing a cycle of
40:22 consciousness and moving on to a new
40:25 cycle there's a there's a concept called
40:28 spiral dynamics I talked about it in the
40:30 episode that will be released soon with
40:32 Paul Brooks where we like we all evolved
40:37 from more primitive states of
40:38 consciousness than the higher levels of
40:40 consciousness and at each level there's
40:42 kind of a marked transition moment and
40:45 we're in that right now so right now the
40:47 level were is kind of going from this
40:50 collective evolution that we've evolved
40:54 to that you know we came from the lowest
40:59 level of consciousness of being like
41:01 cavemen or like being a child with basic
41:04 primal needs and getting those primal
41:07 needs met to then learning how to you
41:12 know get along with others in community
41:13 and have identities with other groups
41:15 instead of just ourselves and then we've
41:18 learned to collectively as a society
41:20 move into capitalism and you know even
41:23 entrepreneurialism and having a system
41:26 where we are able to individualize
41:30 ourselves but yet get our needs met
41:32 through an economic system that is all
41:34 collective and now we're moving into a
41:37 system where like I had mentioned before
41:39 like money might not be needed you know
41:43 people have been talking about the
41:44 universal basic income a lot more since
41:46 kovat happened and I think we're really
41:48 getting to the point now and Paul and I
41:50 talked about this where as a collective
41:53 consciousness I think we're moving into
41:55 this idea of community or moving into
41:59 this idea of co-creation where we're
42:04 moving into the idea of we're all one
42:07 whatever happens to one happens to
42:09 another so we all need to be there
42:11 together like I need to learn how to
42:13 care for Trump as much as I need to
42:15 learn how to care for my wife and my
42:18 daughter and everybody needs to be able
42:21 to get their needs met so that's kind of
42:23 the next level and there are levels
42:25 beyond that that we can't even fathom
42:27 right now but like it's good enough to
42:29 be able to be seeing the light at the
42:32 end of the tunnel for our culture and
42:34 society in a world right now to be
42:36 seeing oh my god we really are on the
42:37 verge of an ascension to this new level
42:41 of integrating our whole society into a
42:44 unit and unity consciousness and that's
42:47 when we when we move into that that's
42:48 where things like telepathy will happen
42:51 you know we might be able to understand
42:56 that okay I mean we can do things
42:58 together we can create whatever we want
43:00 together with the power of our minds and
43:03 not that power I've heard talked about
43:05 is scientifically documented when more
43:08 people focus on a meditative thought
43:11 together than just one person you can
43:13 actually create the impact for real so
43:17 for example there isn't that scientific
43:19 study that was done on crime in
43:21 Washington DC and about I don't know it
43:24 was like 6,000 meditators all at one in
43:28 one month every day focused on this
43:31 meditation together about reducing crime
43:33 in Washington DC and then it worked and
43:36 then when they all stopped
43:38 so the crime went down after that month
43:40 and then when they all stopped doing the
43:41 meditation the crime went way back up
43:44 again so it's you know and there's lots
43:46 of examples like that so that's an
43:49 interesting so I think what we're
43:53 collectively going through right now
43:55 will kind of create the basis for all
43:57 kinds of topics we can discuss in the
43:59 future on sacred rubble our seemd
44:04 by sinning he says I want telekinesis to
44:06 happen yeah I've actually been I've been
44:08 thinking about talking about telekinesis
44:10 - that's more of like moving objects
44:14 with your mind or levitating or floating
44:16 I'm I have dreams about that I've
44:18 definitely had ideas that that is
44:20 possible so I think that's definitely
44:23 something that can happen I think it all
44:24 comes together with an evolutionary
44:26 ascension so
44:30 the third you know you know ascension is
44:33 also kind of looked at as kind of
44:34 changing this planet into a heaven on
44:36 earth in fact the third dimension is
44:38 supposed to be a place where we deal
44:40 with duality or good versus evil
44:42 it's these lessons that we are supposed
44:44 to be learning to reconcile and then be
44:47 able to evolve in the fourth dimension
44:49 we're in the fourth dimension the earth
44:52 will be more of a place where we
44:53 understand a reality beyond duality
44:56 beyond good and evil good and evil will
44:59 become a more holistic and integrated
45:01 thing where we will be one with our
45:04 shadows and our loving sides our shadows
45:07 being our dark places we will just
45:10 integrate those we will accept those we
45:12 will not judge them we will not be at
45:14 war with good versus evil we will not
45:17 have anything to hide anymore so things
45:20 like telepathy and I think yes
45:22 telekinesis and all kinds of thing
45:25 manifesting things with our minds I
45:27 think a world will will be possible and
45:30 it will only happen with the whole
45:33 collective being able to be on that
45:37 evolutionary path together
45:39 so right now on this dimension we're all
45:42 individualized we're all on our own
45:43 individualized paths were we're all
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45:48 understanding the reality that we live
45:50 in a lot differently we all struggle
45:52 with our own individualism and I think
45:56 it's not until we begin to understand
45:58 things as a collective and how we're all
46:00 tied in together that we will be able to
46:02 evolve to the next level which is why I
46:04 really want to start discussions like
46:06 this online and and our since and let's
46:10 fly yes I agree we can fly I think that
46:13 would be the best way to get around whoo
46:15 UFOs ships we can just fly there maybe
46:18 create a little bubble so we don't get
46:19 like birds and ions or whatever but or
46:23 get cold maybe it'll be a
46:24 temperature-controlled bubble protected
46:26 bubble but um yeah so I think that world
46:31 is coming and it is possible so with
46:35 that I want to just stop talking about
46:37 the journey of souls for a moment and I
46:40 want to close this discussion up or this
46:42 it's not really a discussion is it's a
46:45 talk I'll just I'll kind of close this
46:48 talk up today with a dream that I had
46:50 and I want to speak to the dream world
46:52 right now really quick I think you know
46:55 I've been watching David Wilcock a lot
46:56 and a lot of friends including Constance
46:59 my wife and my friend Eric Brown who's
47:04 going to come on this podcast we already
47:05 did a podcast on the flip together which
47:07 you can watch there's a lot of talk
47:10 right now about dream work being really
47:12 important even my Tibetan Buddhist Lama
47:15 teacher says that you know dreams can be
47:18 like school like there can be spiritual
47:20 lessons in our dream sure some dreams
47:23 can just be gobbledygook and there's
47:25 nothing really to learn and in there
47:28 sometimes dreams are very important
47:30 sometimes our spirit if you want to get
47:32 in touch with your spirit guides
47:33 honestly the dream world is a great
47:36 place to start before you go to sleep
47:39 you can ask your spirit guides to come
47:41 to you in your dreams you can actually
47:43 ask for specific topics you want to
47:45 explore and it can happen I had this
47:47 happen you can say I want to fly I want
47:49 to learn how to fly my dreams tonight
47:50 there you go arseny you can learn how to
47:52 fly your dreams if you want so ask you
47:54 know our city says I am NOT a conjurer
47:58 of cheap tricks exactly like we can
48:02 really learn how to do these things in
48:04 the dream world and then create them in
48:07 the reality that we live in and that we
48:09 will be ascending into so um I think
48:13 what I've been experiencing in the dream
48:15 world though is more and more lessons
48:16 it's like really it's like the veil is
48:19 really thin right now and I feel like
48:20 I'm having more and more contact with
48:22 spirit guides and
48:23 lessons that are just really powerful
48:26 for example last night
48:29 oh my gosh so I had a dream or it was
48:33 kind of similar to that scene in Star
48:36 Wars where obi-wan Kenobi was about to
48:40 get hit with the light saber from Darth
48:42 Vader and he disappeared and he was gone
48:44 and what he did is he passed away by
48:47 choice into the afterlife so that you
48:49 would be able to help Luke Skywalker as
48:52 a spiritual guide and he said what it
48:54 was that famous line in Star Wars it was
48:58 something to the extent that he said to
48:59 Darth Vader well you you can't kill me I
49:01 will just become more powerful and
49:03 that's exactly what I experienced in my
49:06 dream last night where my body what felt
49:09 very impermanent and very useless in
49:11 this dimension and after I passed out of
49:15 my body I saw my daughter growing up and
49:19 I was able to help her as a spiritual
49:20 guide I hope I see her as a spiritual
49:25 guide as a very old person though
49:26 because I want to live in this life with
49:28 her for a very long time so I hope that
49:29 dream was not true in that sense but I
49:32 think what it is saying is that in the
49:35 spiritual world we will be able to
49:37 continue to impact this world this or
49:39 three-dimensional world as a spiritual
49:42 guide later to help bring people that we
49:44 loved and that we want to ascend to live
49:46 with us in the higher realms so I think
49:49 the lesson there for me was just pay
49:52 attention to the world that we want to
49:56 create and how we want how we want to
49:59 impact this world right now because it's
50:02 very very important right now to be
50:04 impacting this world so I think maybe
50:07 the practical point here is as we are
50:10 going through these times of Couzens 19
50:12 and you know some of us are still in
50:16 quarantine some of us are going back to
50:17 work some of us are still struggling
50:19 financially with money us some of us are
50:23 still depressed some of us are still
50:26 struggling there is a way that we can
50:29 reshift our mindsets about all this and
50:32 create the positive world that we want
50:34 and I think that was kind of the point
50:37 of my dream and so I hope that you guys
50:39 can all take away from this talk today
50:41 that
50:42 we are not who we think we are the world
50:44 is not what we think it is it's all very
50:47 loved there's a lot of guidance here
50:50 there's a there's a whole team of angels
50:53 surrounding each and every one of us and
50:54 they're looking out for us and it is on
50:57 this third dimension a battle between
50:59 good and evil but what we're looking to
51:01 reconcile is all together the good the
51:04 bad the ugly into a holistic perspective
51:07 that will help us move into a place of
51:09 unity and co-creation with the world so
51:12 with that I hope you guys have a good
51:15 day oh yeah thank you are saying if you
51:18 strike me down I will become more
51:20 powerful than you can possibly imagine
51:21 obi-wan so let that be your calling for
51:25 the day go go forth and know that if you
51:29 are feeling struck down it is okay
51:31 because you will only become more
51:33 powerful than you can possibly imagine
51:36 have a good day you sacred rebels talk
51:39 to you later
